qvadis
03-21 04:48 AM
Allow me to emphasize a different section of the text:
Snips from Nov 05 Bulletin (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html)
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
>> As per my understanding, When there are no per country limits, It can be assigned to any one with oldest PD. Not that it is working like that with USCIS. As I said, before in my previous post, we can imagine these visa numbers tagged with the category name beside them. <<
The way I read this is that this particular AC21 rule only applies if there are no cut-off dates in any category (for that calendar quarter). This is clearly not the case in this bulletin, where the cut-off date for EB3 is set to July '05. Hence, the new interpretation seems different.
During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply ...] This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
>> I have spoken with an attorney and he expressed above similar opinion where we might not have noticed how numbers were overflowing and NOT overflowing to demand or lack of demand. Either way, This is not a panacea for the problem at hand as there is no clarity what so ever in either procedures. <<
Maybe I'm misreading above statement, but it sounds to me that because of higher demand (of ROW), AC21 wouldn't apply anymore, and instead of 47k in '05, India had only received 10k in '06.
Note that I think the immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. By changing their interpretation, they are only taking away visas from one group and give it to another group. I can certainly see why people who are affected by this would be biased. No harm intended.
Snips from Nov 05 Bulletin (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html)
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
>> As per my understanding, When there are no per country limits, It can be assigned to any one with oldest PD. Not that it is working like that with USCIS. As I said, before in my previous post, we can imagine these visa numbers tagged with the category name beside them. <<
The way I read this is that this particular AC21 rule only applies if there are no cut-off dates in any category (for that calendar quarter). This is clearly not the case in this bulletin, where the cut-off date for EB3 is set to July '05. Hence, the new interpretation seems different.
During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply ...] This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
>> I have spoken with an attorney and he expressed above similar opinion where we might not have noticed how numbers were overflowing and NOT overflowing to demand or lack of demand. Either way, This is not a panacea for the problem at hand as there is no clarity what so ever in either procedures. <<
Maybe I'm misreading above statement, but it sounds to me that because of higher demand (of ROW), AC21 wouldn't apply anymore, and instead of 47k in '05, India had only received 10k in '06.
Note that I think the immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. By changing their interpretation, they are only taking away visas from one group and give it to another group. I can certainly see why people who are affected by this would be biased. No harm intended.
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05-24 10:51 PM
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ksircar
07-10 04:45 PM
Please stop this fight ... after all we are all well-educated adults.
Core Team, can you please publish updates on a specific schedule (say, on 15th and last day of each month etc ...), so that everyone will know when to expect updates.
Core Team, can you please publish updates on a specific schedule (say, on 15th and last day of each month etc ...), so that everyone will know when to expect updates.
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garybanz
09-20 02:50 PM
Can we form a Human Chain protest across the major cities of the country at a predefined date and time. for instance, say Nov 9th between 11.AM and 1 PM.
This way more local people, across the country, can participate and as the timing is around lunch hours, I presume many of us can get back to work within the two hour duration.
May be this decentralized & concerted effort in all major cities/states across the country at a specified time may gather main stream media attention.
This is just a thought...
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Human Chain is a great idea...imagine a chain acroos all the major streets of NY city, we will definately get a lot of media attention....but it will need a lot of people
This way more local people, across the country, can participate and as the timing is around lunch hours, I presume many of us can get back to work within the two hour duration.
May be this decentralized & concerted effort in all major cities/states across the country at a specified time may gather main stream media attention.
This is just a thought...
-iOptimist
Human Chain is a great idea...imagine a chain acroos all the major streets of NY city, we will definately get a lot of media attention....but it will need a lot of people
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spicy_guy
05-31 03:10 PM
I think we reached 10K. But we need to bump it up further.
Please help by posting it on other Immigration forums. We need to make this event a great success.
Please help by posting it on other Immigration forums. We need to make this event a great success.
reddymjm
06-15 09:58 PM
Understood every point of yours & I stand by what you said except for the language as it could have been a bit better. Regarding EB3 or EB2, maybe IV should work attaching a provision as part of its CIR work, which makes USCIS determine whether a candidate is in EB3 or EB2 based on the PERM & 140 instead of letting companies & attorneys mention it. If this happens the process will be much better as USCIS controls the categories & applicants do not need to beg a company to throw them into an EB2 basket or EB3 basket. Also, applicants can have certain amount of freedom from the companies.
When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.
Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.
Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.
Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.
Good Luck guys...
When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.
Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.
Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.
Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.
Good Luck guys...
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qplearn
12-02 11:28 AM
If that is so the capital preserved by not doing an MBA in a top ten school which I estimate to be about 60-70K if I am not mistaken might be put to another use.
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
I agree with this. At Cornell, the cost is 90K, and then on their website, they say something like this: after getting our MBA you are ready for anything!
Yeah right! :)
A lot of hard data shows that that is anything but the truth. That kind of money can be spent in buying a house for instance or something that is much more worthwhile. Nowadays, there are jokes about MBAs not being able to open a pdf document.
But I must add that after you've spent 10-15 years in industry, and you want to climb the corporate ladder, an MBA from Harvard or Sloan (or the very few top schools) will definitely help. The returns fall drastically as the rank of the school falls. Surprisingly, the fees don't fall that drastically, and that's why one has to be careful.
As far as ranks, created by US News etc, go: here is the thing. Arizona State is ranked in the top 50. But does it have the same reputation as MIT? No. So even if the ranking is in the top few, make sure the reputation is truly high. And that means three or four schools: Harvard, Wharton, Sloan ...
What do you guys think about this line of argument.
I agree with this. At Cornell, the cost is 90K, and then on their website, they say something like this: after getting our MBA you are ready for anything!
Yeah right! :)
A lot of hard data shows that that is anything but the truth. That kind of money can be spent in buying a house for instance or something that is much more worthwhile. Nowadays, there are jokes about MBAs not being able to open a pdf document.
But I must add that after you've spent 10-15 years in industry, and you want to climb the corporate ladder, an MBA from Harvard or Sloan (or the very few top schools) will definitely help. The returns fall drastically as the rank of the school falls. Surprisingly, the fees don't fall that drastically, and that's why one has to be careful.
As far as ranks, created by US News etc, go: here is the thing. Arizona State is ranked in the top 50. But does it have the same reputation as MIT? No. So even if the ranking is in the top few, make sure the reputation is truly high. And that means three or four schools: Harvard, Wharton, Sloan ...
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eb3_nepa
07-28 04:41 PM
First off i take offence to my spouse being called a "Skill-Less Free Rider". That is by far the most offensive and ridiculous thing anyone has said about H4s. Most spouses on H4 are neither skill-less nor are they here solely for their Green Cards. Infact there are cases where the H4 is More qualified than the primary H1 applicant in their own field, just that it is not an H1b type field or there is no H1B quota etc.
It would be great if the moderators can please remove such offensive stuff when they get a chance. It is one thing to have freedom of speech and it is another to abuse that freedom.
If L2's can work then why not H4s is my simple point. I wonder if we can ask for these kind of smaller reliefs from the law-makers.
It would be great if the moderators can please remove such offensive stuff when they get a chance. It is one thing to have freedom of speech and it is another to abuse that freedom.
If L2's can work then why not H4s is my simple point. I wonder if we can ask for these kind of smaller reliefs from the law-makers.
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srinivasj
05-17 12:42 PM
sent it..thanks for the initiative..
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Totoro
05-22 11:36 AM
The lawyers are still working on the background research they need before they can make a case. This can take some time, but I will update you if anything new comes up.
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vandanaverdia
09-11 04:22 PM
Knowing that you at least stood for your rights is much better than not standing up at all!!!
Stand up for your rights... Come to DC!!!!
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Stand up for your rights... Come to DC!!!!
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Macaca
09-13 03:32 PM
I have been thinking about whether to attend the rally or not from past few weeks.
Attending the rally would require me to take a day off. Finally today without thinking twice I just went to my manager asked if I can take day off on 9/18 instead compensate the work in the following saturday. It was approved and I am attending the rally on 9/18!
I am feeling so good now.
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Attending the rally would require me to take a day off. Finally today without thinking twice I just went to my manager asked if I can take day off on 9/18 instead compensate the work in the following saturday. It was approved and I am attending the rally on 9/18!
I am feeling so good now.
Our greatest battles
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Jaime
09-22 03:41 AM
and let's also focus on action pretty soon! Let's not get the iron cool!
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mbartosik
09-21 07:12 PM
I cancelled my tickets because of the FP appointment I had on same day.
You could have called the local finger print office, and asked to move to another day because of travel. They let me come in 2 weeks early because of a flight. I had tickets in hand but they didn't ask to see.
You could have called the local finger print office, and asked to move to another day because of travel. They let me come in 2 weeks early because of a flight. I had tickets in hand but they didn't ask to see.
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mirage
06-26 08:57 AM
My post which you quoted clearly says paper file. I used USPSmirage - Did you paper file or e-file. Did you use USPS or Private courier to send to TSC.
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stuckinmuck
06-14 09:24 AM
Please check with your lawyer but as per my understanding, your wife needs to be in 'status' to be added as a dependent on the 485. She doesn't have to get on an H4 to be added as a dependent. Since she is on F1, she is already in 'status'.
Hello All:
It is great that the dates have become current and many of our friends here at IV can apply for 485. Congratualtions!!! to all that can apply.
I am in a dilemma and don�t know what to do:
My LC has been approved PR 02/10/05
My I-140 is pending.
I know I can file for 485 but my wife is on F1 � OPT and is working she has applied for a H1 and will get it because of Master�s quota but will not be effective till October, 2007. Can I file 485 now even though she is on F1?
I have two choices, either wait till October 2007 or cancel the H1 go to Mexico and get a H4 stamp for my wife and apply for 485. Please advise what I should do. Thanks!!!
Hello All:
It is great that the dates have become current and many of our friends here at IV can apply for 485. Congratualtions!!! to all that can apply.
I am in a dilemma and don�t know what to do:
My LC has been approved PR 02/10/05
My I-140 is pending.
I know I can file for 485 but my wife is on F1 � OPT and is working she has applied for a H1 and will get it because of Master�s quota but will not be effective till October, 2007. Can I file 485 now even though she is on F1?
I have two choices, either wait till October 2007 or cancel the H1 go to Mexico and get a H4 stamp for my wife and apply for 485. Please advise what I should do. Thanks!!!
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a1b2c3
07-06 11:17 AM
Does anybody knows when this bill is going to be discussed in the House?
:) No one seems to have any concrete info. There is lot of empty talk and idle speculation by some of the forum members, though. Guess that's what the public forums are for :D
:) No one seems to have any concrete info. There is lot of empty talk and idle speculation by some of the forum members, though. Guess that's what the public forums are for :D
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ak27
12-01 08:57 AM
You are right about utilizing this time to increase skill portfolio. I have done it and many folks like us may doing it. But, it does not help in improving our situations because we are tied to our current jobs and employers which inhibits us from taking advantage of additional educations and skills.. However, people waiting for GC and are in last leg of GC journey should certainly consider it.
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lakewalker
10-05 03:53 PM
I plan to come but what is the street address of the recreation area?
Tito_ortiz
02-13 10:33 AM
What was said at on BusinessWeek was just the old story again;just one side of the story. The truth is that you are setting yourself for disappointment if you expect this to turn into reality. Just relax, contribute to IV and save the rest of your money. Keep your expectations low, folks and we will get there.
Based on last week's BusinessWeek article, I have a feeling that we will see an effort to restrict initial H1B applications in some way. That would be a good opportunity to push for allowing naturalization applications for people who have been on work visas for a long time (say 8-10 yrs?). Fighting for citizenship would have a stronger emotional dimension and may connect better with the American public. A direct filing for citizenship will work around retrogression by providing an avenue for people to move out of the GC queue.
Based on last week's BusinessWeek article, I have a feeling that we will see an effort to restrict initial H1B applications in some way. That would be a good opportunity to push for allowing naturalization applications for people who have been on work visas for a long time (say 8-10 yrs?). Fighting for citizenship would have a stronger emotional dimension and may connect better with the American public. A direct filing for citizenship will work around retrogression by providing an avenue for people to move out of the GC queue.
eb3retro
06-30 01:56 PM
Ok the bill is on THOMAS.
Here's the link to the bill
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:23:./temp/~bd2vNO::|/bss/d109query.html|
It's already been referred to the House Judiciary. Since it had to do with Competitiveness i'd rather much rather see it in the House Energy and Commerce or House Science Committee. Despite all their talk of 'welcoming legals, and pro-immigrant, anti-illegal immigrant" pronouncements, they haven't done much to help legals in the Judiciary Committee.
logiclife: thanks for setting up the webfax. Appreciate all the work you guys are doing.
Btw, in the senate skil bill (s 2691) i see a new co-sponsor added, TX Sen Hutchinson. Can you set up the Webfax in a way that we can email our Senators/Congressmen to request they co-sponsor their chamber's respective versions of this legislation? Thank1
one more suggestion/request for logiclife. if the webfax is ready by today it would be great. Cos, lot of people will be out of town next week, since its a long weekend, and may not be accessing this site for a few days. Just a suggestion. Thanks logiclife for setting up the webfax.
Here's the link to the bill
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:23:./temp/~bd2vNO::|/bss/d109query.html|
It's already been referred to the House Judiciary. Since it had to do with Competitiveness i'd rather much rather see it in the House Energy and Commerce or House Science Committee. Despite all their talk of 'welcoming legals, and pro-immigrant, anti-illegal immigrant" pronouncements, they haven't done much to help legals in the Judiciary Committee.
logiclife: thanks for setting up the webfax. Appreciate all the work you guys are doing.
Btw, in the senate skil bill (s 2691) i see a new co-sponsor added, TX Sen Hutchinson. Can you set up the Webfax in a way that we can email our Senators/Congressmen to request they co-sponsor their chamber's respective versions of this legislation? Thank1
one more suggestion/request for logiclife. if the webfax is ready by today it would be great. Cos, lot of people will be out of town next week, since its a long weekend, and may not be accessing this site for a few days. Just a suggestion. Thanks logiclife for setting up the webfax.
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