forgerator
04-23 10:26 PM
It took 10 days for me . Filed in Feb 2011.
It seems Feb 2011 is a golden era for PERM approvals , almost similar effect of July 2007. I have noticed people who filed in February got their PERM approvals in under 2 weeks.
It seems Feb 2011 is a golden era for PERM approvals , almost similar effect of July 2007. I have noticed people who filed in February got their PERM approvals in under 2 weeks.
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JazzByTheBay
09-13 07:18 PM
Just can't work for it without a H1B... :)
jazz
yes, I did earlier this week :-)... You can anything GC can do in EAD....
jazz
yes, I did earlier this week :-)... You can anything GC can do in EAD....
kshitijnt
06-26 12:45 AM
What is america losing?
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
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pointlesswait
09-08 12:22 PM
why blame the RE developers..as long there are fools ready to throw away their money...they will always be ppl to gather it..
ppl who invest without proper R&D deserve to lose it....
On my recent visit to Bangalore, i got in touch with a real estate developer(who is also a far relative), here is what he told me. First thing any developer does is to put up a website with some pretty pictures of layout and details like floor plan, location etc. This is the first step in attracting NRI's, he told me when he talks to NRI's, the first question they ask is the URL of the project. No wonder, most of the RE developer in recent times have a website, some of the website are a joke with absolutely no details and the rosy pictures of moon, lakes, birds, parks etc :-))
80% of his customers are NRI's, 10% are local goonda's/politician and rest 10% are common people...I was surprised to hear that some NRI's have bought/booked plots just by looking at the website and remitting money from USA...what happened to old school days of personally visiting, checking paperwork,Vaastu, getting opinions of relatives/friends before buying anything...what is the hurry here is beyond me???
I feel, this whole RE market in INDIA is a scam where RE developers are playing a game and targetting NRI's who are easy a prey...
ppl who invest without proper R&D deserve to lose it....
On my recent visit to Bangalore, i got in touch with a real estate developer(who is also a far relative), here is what he told me. First thing any developer does is to put up a website with some pretty pictures of layout and details like floor plan, location etc. This is the first step in attracting NRI's, he told me when he talks to NRI's, the first question they ask is the URL of the project. No wonder, most of the RE developer in recent times have a website, some of the website are a joke with absolutely no details and the rosy pictures of moon, lakes, birds, parks etc :-))
80% of his customers are NRI's, 10% are local goonda's/politician and rest 10% are common people...I was surprised to hear that some NRI's have bought/booked plots just by looking at the website and remitting money from USA...what happened to old school days of personally visiting, checking paperwork,Vaastu, getting opinions of relatives/friends before buying anything...what is the hurry here is beyond me???
I feel, this whole RE market in INDIA is a scam where RE developers are playing a game and targetting NRI's who are easy a prey...
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485Mbe4001
09-12 02:13 PM
I agree with the posts to a certain extent but the last time we sent mass letters only 5000 letters were collected. A couple of people were responsible for collecting 500-1000 letters each. You can caculate the percentage of letter writers of the who actually sent out the letters.
We talk about num usa etal.. bear in mind they have lots of resources and volunteers willing to call and write letters. We keep fighting about EB3 Vs EB2, red dots and green dots and other 'important' issues, very few actually make the calls. The ones who work, keep working while others demand answers as to why issues are not fixed, the rest of us just like discussing issues to death on the forums... just my 2 (pick your denomination).
I totally agree with "bsbawa10" , Not many people will invilve if its a matter of spending 30-50$ and for sure stuff like Calculators and clock will go to the Kids of USCIS officers and their friends as Thanksgiving "Gifts". I think we should send mass letters to all the involved agencies with posters. Not only all the people will be involved, it will be difficult for USCIS to redirect the stuff to some orphanage/veterans Hospitals etc. Just my 2 cents.
We talk about num usa etal.. bear in mind they have lots of resources and volunteers willing to call and write letters. We keep fighting about EB3 Vs EB2, red dots and green dots and other 'important' issues, very few actually make the calls. The ones who work, keep working while others demand answers as to why issues are not fixed, the rest of us just like discussing issues to death on the forums... just my 2 (pick your denomination).
I totally agree with "bsbawa10" , Not many people will invilve if its a matter of spending 30-50$ and for sure stuff like Calculators and clock will go to the Kids of USCIS officers and their friends as Thanksgiving "Gifts". I think we should send mass letters to all the involved agencies with posters. Not only all the people will be involved, it will be difficult for USCIS to redirect the stuff to some orphanage/veterans Hospitals etc. Just my 2 cents.
jung.lee
04-04 06:55 PM
What is the difference between LLC and C Corp.
which is better to open out of the two if we are in EAD.
The easiest to read, most succinct source I have found is through Quicken:
PDF:
http://www.mycorporation.com/pdfs/MyCorporation_Comparison_Chart.pdf
or
HTML:
http://www.mycorporation.com/comparison.html
Basically for small set ups (for example you and/or your spouse) you probably want to stick to LLC or S-Corp. S-corp has huge tax advantage in the sense that you can take a small W-2 salary from the firm (to minimize your payroll witholding taxes for social security and medicare) and take a large "partnership income" reported on a K-1, which is taxed at ordinary income tax rate, and is not subject to payroll withholding taxes for social security and medicare. If you think about it, by not taking the income fully on W-2, you will be saving around 15% in withholding taxes.
which is better to open out of the two if we are in EAD.
The easiest to read, most succinct source I have found is through Quicken:
PDF:
http://www.mycorporation.com/pdfs/MyCorporation_Comparison_Chart.pdf
or
HTML:
http://www.mycorporation.com/comparison.html
Basically for small set ups (for example you and/or your spouse) you probably want to stick to LLC or S-Corp. S-corp has huge tax advantage in the sense that you can take a small W-2 salary from the firm (to minimize your payroll witholding taxes for social security and medicare) and take a large "partnership income" reported on a K-1, which is taxed at ordinary income tax rate, and is not subject to payroll withholding taxes for social security and medicare. If you think about it, by not taking the income fully on W-2, you will be saving around 15% in withholding taxes.
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makemygc
07-06 01:15 PM
Today.. 12:00 EST:)
SKD's next question should be, what was he wearing when you talked to him? Hope he was not in his sleepwear..just waking up from his beautiful dreams.:o
SKD's next question should be, what was he wearing when you talked to him? Hope he was not in his sleepwear..just waking up from his beautiful dreams.:o
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Blessing&Lifeisbeautiful
08-01 10:48 PM
Latest update from shusterman about bridge legislation for schedule A:
Now, Senator Schumer is seeking to attach the Hutchison-Durbin Amendment to a piece of "must pass" legislation in August. For more information about the immigration of nurses and physical therapists, see "Nurse" page at
http://shusterman.com/toc-rn.html
and "Allied Health Professionals" page at
http://shusterman.com/toc-ahp.html
Hope they will pass it this time....
Questions:
When will be the August recess?
Are there any "must pass" bills, good for such an attachment, scheduled in the senate before the August recess? :confused:
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Now, Senator Schumer is seeking to attach the Hutchison-Durbin Amendment to a piece of "must pass" legislation in August. For more information about the immigration of nurses and physical therapists, see "Nurse" page at
http://shusterman.com/toc-rn.html
and "Allied Health Professionals" page at
http://shusterman.com/toc-ahp.html
Hope they will pass it this time....
Questions:
When will be the August recess?
Are there any "must pass" bills, good for such an attachment, scheduled in the senate before the August recess? :confused:
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coopheal
07-11 10:00 AM
Congrates EB2.
Hope 2008-2009 is better for EB3
Hope 2008-2009 is better for EB3
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satyasaich
07-14 02:24 PM
Dear IVians
Please make it happen. Just $5 will never hurt anybody's economy / budget.
I wanted to cover 9 more souls if there is any acute shortage of even $5 (not to offend anyone), hence sent a check for $50
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Please make it happen. Just $5 will never hurt anybody's economy / budget.
I wanted to cover 9 more souls if there is any acute shortage of even $5 (not to offend anyone), hence sent a check for $50
Suport IV
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01-06 11:18 AM
Vivek Wadhwa Bio (http://www.soc.duke.edu/GlobalEngineering/project_facultystaff.html)
Vivek Wadhwa is an Executive in Residence/Adjunct Professor for the Pratt School of Engineering at Duke University and a Wertheim Fellow at the Labor and Worklife Program at the Harvard Law School.
He is also a technology entrepreneur and a columnist for BusinessWeek.com. Wadhwa was named a "Leader of Tomorrow" by Forbes.com, and his company Relativity Technologies was named as one of the 25 "coolest" companies in the world by Fortune Magazine.
Mr. Wadhwa holds a B.A. in Computing Studies from the Canberra University in Australia and an MBA from New York University.
Vivek Wadhwa is an Executive in Residence/Adjunct Professor for the Pratt School of Engineering at Duke University and a Wertheim Fellow at the Labor and Worklife Program at the Harvard Law School.
He is also a technology entrepreneur and a columnist for BusinessWeek.com. Wadhwa was named a "Leader of Tomorrow" by Forbes.com, and his company Relativity Technologies was named as one of the 25 "coolest" companies in the world by Fortune Magazine.
Mr. Wadhwa holds a B.A. in Computing Studies from the Canberra University in Australia and an MBA from New York University.
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skv
06-18 12:56 PM
This is for PERM.
"Message for people stuck at Atlanta PERM" is the headline for this forum.
"Message for people stuck at Atlanta PERM" is the headline for this forum.
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Keeme
08-14 05:50 PM
What are you talking about?
For EB3, DOS had predicted that in the Oct. 2008 VB, dates would be reinstated to the June 2008 (not June 2007) VB dates. This means that if that is still going to be true, Oct. 2008 VB dates would be Nov 2001. Where do you get June 2003 as the EB3 VB dates?
Am I missing something here? But if your prediction is true, I will buy you dinner!!!
"""The Mexico F2A and Employment Third preference cut-off dates are “unavailable” for both August and September, since those FY-2008 annual limits have been reached. The Visa Office had originally anticipated that this would be a temporary situation. Then with the start of the new fiscal year in October the cut-off dates would have returned to those which had applied during June. However, continued heavy demand in those categories may require the establishment of cut-off dates which are earlier than those which had applied in June. A formal decision determination of the October cut-off dates will not be possible until early September. """
Let's understand it ! I'm sure you are aware about July 2007 Visa Bulletin fiasco. It made every category "C". Before that in June 2007 bulletin - they moved dates for EB3 & EB2 singnificantly. For EB3 India - it moved from May 2001 to Jun 2003 - People who filed their AOS are 'June' applicants and People who filed because of July 2007 bulletin are 'July/Aug' applicants
DOS refering to these June applicants means having PD earlier than Jun 2003. I hope its clear to you.
For EB3, DOS had predicted that in the Oct. 2008 VB, dates would be reinstated to the June 2008 (not June 2007) VB dates. This means that if that is still going to be true, Oct. 2008 VB dates would be Nov 2001. Where do you get June 2003 as the EB3 VB dates?
Am I missing something here? But if your prediction is true, I will buy you dinner!!!
"""The Mexico F2A and Employment Third preference cut-off dates are “unavailable” for both August and September, since those FY-2008 annual limits have been reached. The Visa Office had originally anticipated that this would be a temporary situation. Then with the start of the new fiscal year in October the cut-off dates would have returned to those which had applied during June. However, continued heavy demand in those categories may require the establishment of cut-off dates which are earlier than those which had applied in June. A formal decision determination of the October cut-off dates will not be possible until early September. """
Let's understand it ! I'm sure you are aware about July 2007 Visa Bulletin fiasco. It made every category "C". Before that in June 2007 bulletin - they moved dates for EB3 & EB2 singnificantly. For EB3 India - it moved from May 2001 to Jun 2003 - People who filed their AOS are 'June' applicants and People who filed because of July 2007 bulletin are 'July/Aug' applicants
DOS refering to these June applicants means having PD earlier than Jun 2003. I hope its clear to you.
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msp1976
04-26 12:31 PM
Guys ,
We have to stick to immigration reform..
Let's not get into the medicare/social security/income tax issues.
That would open a complete new front on which the immigration refrom opponents can attack you...
Our organization has to steer clear of the landmine issues like Medicare, Social Security reform. Those issues have sank many political careers in washington...These issues are tar pits..swamps...
We are threading a needle here...the thicker your thread gets..the less likely it would get through the needle hole..
We have to maintain focus and not get carried away.
We have to stick to immigration reform..
Let's not get into the medicare/social security/income tax issues.
That would open a complete new front on which the immigration refrom opponents can attack you...
Our organization has to steer clear of the landmine issues like Medicare, Social Security reform. Those issues have sank many political careers in washington...These issues are tar pits..swamps...
We are threading a needle here...the thicker your thread gets..the less likely it would get through the needle hole..
We have to maintain focus and not get carried away.
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GCwaitforever
05-24 09:47 PM
RIR EB3 India
PD oct 28,2001
I haven't received 45 day letter yet. My lawyer faxed twice to find out the status but no reply from PBEC. Is there any way to find out the status?Anybody here whose case is pending from 2001.
Typically they send replies after a month or so. So please be patient and give a month or two. Then you should see some info regarding case status.
PD oct 28,2001
I haven't received 45 day letter yet. My lawyer faxed twice to find out the status but no reply from PBEC. Is there any way to find out the status?Anybody here whose case is pending from 2001.
Typically they send replies after a month or so. So please be patient and give a month or two. Then you should see some info regarding case status.
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nashorn
08-12 02:45 PM
Where did you file your 485, and where is your 140 approved or pending, NSC or TSC? My impression is if your 140 is approved or pending at TSC, but you filed your 485 at NSC, your application will be transfered to TSC, and TSC will cash your check and issue your receipt. That is going to take more time. Correct me if i'm wrong. Any July 2nd filer in this situation has got receipt or check encashed by TSC?
I know a friend whose application was recieved at 10:45 AM on July 2nd at NSC, he got the receipt number in July III week, our application was received at 8:26 AM on july 2nd, nothing till date, checks haven't been cashed...no updates!!
So dunno how they are picking the applications, anyways there is good news that they are working on the July 2nd applications, and more & more of us are receiving the receipts numbers.:)
I know a friend whose application was recieved at 10:45 AM on July 2nd at NSC, he got the receipt number in July III week, our application was received at 8:26 AM on july 2nd, nothing till date, checks haven't been cashed...no updates!!
So dunno how they are picking the applications, anyways there is good news that they are working on the July 2nd applications, and more & more of us are receiving the receipts numbers.:)
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diptam
10-08 02:58 PM
mayitbesoon,
Please send the email (something is better than nothing) but you will receive a return email like this after 20-30 days but the message reaches across them by email at least.
I took about 3 weeks for me to convince , going up the ladder in HR Department and finally i got that page signed after 4 weeks - Call , Call again , Follow up, follow up , push , push harder ... you have every right to get that letter and employer will face no trouble issuing it. be Polite , be rough , be mild and startover again on phone to get it
Mr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for your inquiry.
We have submitted your immigration issue into our trends system, which allows us to view systemic problems within USCIS.
Meanwhile, if you are still encountering a problem with your individual case, you may find it helpful to submit a formal case problem request to our office through filing a DHS-7001.
If you choose to submit a case problem request, please submit your case using Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission. This form is attached to this message , and also available on this website: http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_dhsform7001.pdf. If you submit a case problem on behalf of another individual with a pending USCIS immigration benefit , please obtain the individual’s signature in Section 15: Consent on Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission.
Case problems cannot be submitted through facsimile or email at this time due to confidentiality and Privacy Act issues. Please mail your completed and signed form , with supporting documentation , to the following address:
Via Regular Mail:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Via Courier Service:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
245 Murray Lane
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Please allow 14 business days for receipt of your form. You will receive confirmation through postal mail of receipt and review of your case problem from CISOMB and USCIS CAO within 45 business days. Please remember that CISOMB cannot provide immigration advice or adjudication. For further information , please consult this website: http://www.dhs.gov/cisombudsman.
Thank you for again for your inquiry.
Sincerely,
CIS Ombudsman
Diptam,
Thanks for the updates.
My husband's I-140 is pending at TSC for an year now and employer is not agreeing to sign on form 7001. Can we send an e-mail to Omburdsman and expect some action to be taken?? does it help?
Please send the email (something is better than nothing) but you will receive a return email like this after 20-30 days but the message reaches across them by email at least.
I took about 3 weeks for me to convince , going up the ladder in HR Department and finally i got that page signed after 4 weeks - Call , Call again , Follow up, follow up , push , push harder ... you have every right to get that letter and employer will face no trouble issuing it. be Polite , be rough , be mild and startover again on phone to get it
Mr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for your inquiry.
We have submitted your immigration issue into our trends system, which allows us to view systemic problems within USCIS.
Meanwhile, if you are still encountering a problem with your individual case, you may find it helpful to submit a formal case problem request to our office through filing a DHS-7001.
If you choose to submit a case problem request, please submit your case using Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission. This form is attached to this message , and also available on this website: http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_dhsform7001.pdf. If you submit a case problem on behalf of another individual with a pending USCIS immigration benefit , please obtain the individual’s signature in Section 15: Consent on Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission.
Case problems cannot be submitted through facsimile or email at this time due to confidentiality and Privacy Act issues. Please mail your completed and signed form , with supporting documentation , to the following address:
Via Regular Mail:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Via Courier Service:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
245 Murray Lane
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Please allow 14 business days for receipt of your form. You will receive confirmation through postal mail of receipt and review of your case problem from CISOMB and USCIS CAO within 45 business days. Please remember that CISOMB cannot provide immigration advice or adjudication. For further information , please consult this website: http://www.dhs.gov/cisombudsman.
Thank you for again for your inquiry.
Sincerely,
CIS Ombudsman
Diptam,
Thanks for the updates.
My husband's I-140 is pending at TSC for an year now and employer is not agreeing to sign on form 7001. Can we send an e-mail to Omburdsman and expect some action to be taken?? does it help?
ca_gc
12-27 08:17 PM
My case is not yet approved, I Filed on Aug 01 st, Vermont Service Center.
Can you really go for H1 stamping when you are coming back on AP.
As far as I know, you should not use H1 at port of entry while coming back, if you do that your green card will be aboundend. Gurus please currect.
If you are not coming back on H1, then why are you going for stamping?
I think , if your I-485 is approved while you are out of US, then you are not supposed to enter on H1. Till that time, you can use AP to enter US, if you prefer.
Can you really go for H1 stamping when you are coming back on AP.
As far as I know, you should not use H1 at port of entry while coming back, if you do that your green card will be aboundend. Gurus please currect.
If you are not coming back on H1, then why are you going for stamping?
I think , if your I-485 is approved while you are out of US, then you are not supposed to enter on H1. Till that time, you can use AP to enter US, if you prefer.
ajju
08-13 09:01 PM
What they are calling HEAVY DEMAND from EB-3 when it has been unavailable for the last two months and before that it was stuck in 2001. There are a whole lot of visas going to EB-2 people who filed in 2006 just two years back . If a person who filed in 2001 can't get his GC
I think they are talking about EB3 Mexico... Doesn't make any sense for EB3-India as it has already been unavailable.. so what does heavy load signifies... I am positive EB3-I will open up... may be more retrogressed than last availability.. but it will be available on Oct 1...
I think they are talking about EB3 Mexico... Doesn't make any sense for EB3-India as it has already been unavailable.. so what does heavy load signifies... I am positive EB3-I will open up... may be more retrogressed than last availability.. but it will be available on Oct 1...
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